The morning of Day 28 arrives, with cotton candy clouds and crabs scurrying about the shore, Dan and Sierra (with Tyler and Rodney still “in bed” close by) discuss how adamant Mike was when trying to convince his 2 former Blue Collar allies they’re at the bottom of the S6 food chain – it’s not really a secret anymore, so let’s just call it, “The Six” – but Tyler is quick to remind them that Mike flipped on them. With Tyler’s vote of support, Dan feels comfortable confessing he’s not simply “playing a passive game.” He’s got schemes, that Dan, and he’s just waiting to pull them out of his “mailbag of tricks…”
And perhaps one of those is to make his move on Shirin – strategically, of course – and check in with her. Now, I don’t care how annoying she’s been through the first 27 days of the show, if someone gets attacked like that – in real life or on TV – you want to cut them some slack. Yeah, I’ve read some things saying it didn’t go down “exactly” as we saw, either Shirin said a few nasty things first to POS setting him off, or Mike attacked him too, but NONE OF THAT WAS SHOWN TO US, so all I can do is react to what I saw. True, that’s the nature of Survivor, and ALL of our reactions, either positive or negative, are based on what the show gives us. But since that’s the only “reality” we’ve been provided for 29 ¾ seasons, it’s the only thing we should expect now.
However, Dan just wants to check on her, because she’s looking “melancholy,” which is code for “Dan acting sympathetic to a woman,” but at least he means well. Or does he? Shirin is dead nuts on point when she wonders how a person (like POS) could be so dumb or cruel to have attacked another human being like he did, and after careful consideration, she decides that he’s “just that stupid.”
Truer words were never spoken…
But the sh**tiest thing about his tirade, she ponders, is that now he could be someone who everyone wants to take to the end, because there’s no way in hell he can win, right?! Wouldn’t that be a humdinger!? as Keith would say.
Unfortunately, Mike and Shirin are once again at the bottom of the pecking order, and since no one spoke up to defend Shirin at Tribal, Dan appears to be troubled by that, and wants to apologize to her. But, in true Dan form, he drops the ball again and says he’s sorry about “whatever made you cry,” as if it’s Shirin’s fault. “Those weak, crybaby, victims,” he must think. “Why can’t they just sit there and take the abuse!?”
Seriously, folks, if those words EVER come out of your mouth, YOU deserve to have some serious shock therapy, or I’m sure we can come up with some other methods of re-educating you. Physical abuse? Bars of soap in a tube sock? Bloodletting? How about the old, “Frank Above The Beans” technique I saw in There’s Something About Mary? Hmmm…I wonder if you need a license to practice that…?
And I think I found my patient! In the very next scene, after Dan just gave her the “Whatsamatter, baby?” treatment, he’s now calling her out for always “playing the victim,” and lying and being two-faced in the game. Um, excuse me, Danny old boy. You just described THE FRICKING GAME OF SURVIVOR, you f**king idiot. And now he’s throwing her under the bus for calling out POS! He ends his confessional by chalking this whole incident up to karma, which is the craziest thing I’ve heard this season, and we’re still only 4 minutes into the episode!
Side note: karma is a word that’s thrown out way too much. I grew up in California, with all the hippy dippy trippy people from the 60’s and 70’s running around, who then spawned a generation of dope-smoking, surf, skate, and astrology-obsessed slackers and dreamers – and I know there are folks like this everywhere. But the idea of “karma” and how it’s used, has shifted dramatically from its origins in Hinduism and Buddhism
I think people used to mean it like,
“My life’s been pretty sh**ty, but something really great’s gonna happen someday.”
As in, it’s something positive to look forward to. But alas, it seems people have twisted it around to have it simply mean:
“That guy was a d**k over there, so I’m gonna go key his car when he walks away. That’s karma for you, a**hole…”
It’s kind of two different things. While it used to mean something positive to look forward to, it now signifies that evil people in the world are finally getting their comeuppance.
So that’s how I’m feeling about Dan right now. He can’t just agree that she was attacked, he’s got to make it about “everything she did is why she got what she got.” Which is the same as saying, “that girl shouldn’t have worn those really short shorts, because she’s announcing she’s a slut. She deserves everything she gets…”
I just realized I think I’m getting a little too heavy for a reality show recap. But it’s so disappointing to see this kind of behavior on a family friendly reality program. Hey, Jeff and Mark, two things:
1. A lot of people watch this show with their kids. Their YOUNG kids. Since it’s on at 8pm, we expect a bit of discretion in what you show. If you’re going to pixilated every crotch shot, butt crack, and nipple poke, can you please refrain from showing some of the most despicable behavior on TV?! A lot of people have to explain why the “big, scary man” is yelling at that poor lady.” And TBH, I don’t care if my son sees a butt crack, at least that’s something we can laugh about.
2. Mark produces all that religion-themed programming and Jeff’s an ordained minister. Isn’t there something deep inside that compels them to “do the right thing” and show a little more compassion to a victim?
I’m so annoyed…IDK, how do you guys feel?
Ok, I didn’t see any challenge previews this week so I’m coming in blind. I see a big sandy area and some barrels, so it looks like this could be fun. Can we please have some fun, now?! The challenge requires teams of 4 to get across 3 sections of sand, using the barrels, 2 planks of wood, and some rope. Why the rope? Who frickin’ knows? Teams need to make it across the 3 sections of sand without touching the sand, or having the planks or rope touch the sand. Cool, sounds kind of simple and I don’t think we’ve ever seen this before, that’s always good…
Blue Team
Mike
Shirin
Sierra
Rodney
Red Team
Tyler
Dan
Carolyn
POS
And it would appear the Blue Team is going to get them bacon cheeseburgers and pie! Or at least I hope so. We know Shirin is no challenge monster, but let’s see if she’s the reason Blue loses.
Jeff says “Go!” and they’re off. The teams are using different approaches: Blue, led by Mike, is rolling 3 barrels and then using the last one to have the other 3 player perch on it. Red is using the “stand the barrels up and use the planks to connect them. Blue takes a slight lead; however, their approach seems a bit riskier. Mike is drenched in sweat from all the effort he’s exerting before they’re even across the first section of sand.
It’s a true “Tortoise and the Hare” as Red’s slow and steady approach seems to be paying off. Having overtaken Blue in the 2nd section, their lead is strengthened when Mike absent-mindedly stands up the planks in the sand – they now have to go back to the start of that section. And in that instant, any physical advantage the Blue Team held – in a physical challenge, mind you – is blown by Mike’s mental mistake. Dude, you are so not All-Star material…
Realizing Red is about to win, Sierra goes for broke and jumps atop a barrel and begins to “barrel-roll” hers across the sand, yelling to the others, “We have to try something!” She’s a rodeo gal – a National Barrel Racing champion, in fact – so this is something she’s probably done once or twice, in a bikini, I’m sure. But I don’t think there’s a lot of barrel rolling going on at the Yahoo company retreat, and Shirin falls off, followed quickly by Mike. Looks like they’ll be serving Hasenpfeffer on the reward too!
Before Jeff sends them off, he notices how subdued the winners are and it’s evident how exhausted everyone is. And, since Dan always has to add something, he says they feel bad for the losers, particularly Boston Rod, who hasn’t gone on ANY rewards. Jeff puts him on the spot and tells him, “You can give your spot to Rodney,” and immediately you can see Dan doesn’t want to do that – because he loves dem burgers and pie! – but before it gets uncomfortable, Rodney speaks up and says, “it’s okay, I’ll get mine.”
But, it does raise the question of why no one else gave their spot to Rodney. If he’s the so-called “Cyrus” of The Six (or The Four, if that’s what’s really up) then you’d think someone would have shown him some love. Remember how giving up rewards last season was so in vogue? No one wanted to go anywhere! So now, the fact that neither Tyler, Carolyn, nor POS even considered it, may be a little telling. Carolyn confesses she actually wanted Dan to come with them, so they can make him feel safe enough so he doesn’t consider flipping back to Mike, but this also means Rodney is going to be alone with the other 3. And Rodney is like a kid in a candy store, give him free reign and he’ll stir something up. We’ll see.
I have never seen Warriors, so that all went over my head. Did read Of Mice and Men, and actually saw the last 20 minutes of the movie this week (the 90’s version)
Unfortunately did season is making me hope someone treats me like Lennie and ends it all.
There could have been so many good moves this episode, but no.
I can see why Mike held on to the idol, but that is more of the live one more week strategy. I think he should have saved Shirin, telling her in advance and the two voting for Tyler.
As for Tyler and Mama C, I cannot figure out how close they are to Sierra and POS, but learning about the extra vote, Tyler perhaps the move would be to share that info with those two and gone for a Dan exit.
As for the barrel challenge, I am shocked blue did as well as they did with the stupid rolling the barrel strategy. I am not happy with the immunity challenge giving the women the advantage. Jeff’s answer in some website I read was just pathetic. He claimed everyone should be happy, since two idols in play. No, men still get screwed. Why is Jeff still bringing up the Shirin/POS crap? Too much talking from Jeff at tribal. At least the players seem to be ignoring Jeff’s advice.
I did not need to see the mama C crotch shot during the immunity challenge.
So losers get to kill a chicken, a new rule?
As for the extra vote box. I could not read the fine print. Does Dan need to produce the box? If not, why the heck did he not throw that in the ocean. If yes, why are players allowed to go through others players belongings? How did Tyler know Dan had something hidden in his bag? Did he figure Dan was too stupid to dispose of the evidence?
I have to say I just don’t get the Will vs. Shirin situation. How could no one there stand up for her? I am pretty sure he told her at one point that she was entirely “without worth” if he is a POS I get that, some people just suck. But for everyone else there to just sit back and let it roll is mind boggling. How shitty is this cast? And I have to say, I think Dan is a bigger ass than even Will. Basically everything that comes out of his mouth is either smarmy, ignorant, ridiculous, cruel or a toxic combination. I feel like he went and said “sorry you cried” or whatever out of some desire to be involved in the drama of her past and be the big hero he fancies himself to be, quickly realized he still didn’t like her and moved onto embracing the “I tell it like it is” side of himself. I would think someone with such a false sense of self like he has could really benefit from seeing themselves on TV, but most likely it will go well over his head.
I wish they would do a season of survivor composed solely of “threats” all the joes and Malcolms–strong, easy going, good looking, intelligent leaders who were voted out simply because everyone knew they were winners. The gay couple from last season (can’t remember their names) and the firefighter from last season, Joe, Malcolm, off the top of my head, John from last season, and I can think of several girls from previous seasons but they were too long ago for me to remember their names. Basically having no weak links, no “following” personalities. I think it would make for a crazy, exciting season where everyone would be rooting for someone different. And all of them would be in it to win it. There would be alliances but every one would be trying to be in charge and making independent decisions. I think it would be awesome.
It is a sad, sad day when the only big boobs to look at are on a man. I’m sorry. There isn’t any man candy either, le sigh. There are some things that annoy me about Shirin but I did notice that when she isn’t getting beat up she looks like she is having fun.
I think Mike accomplished exactly what he was trying to do. Create a fracture in the alliance that he may be able to break open. As he said at the end, “Dan got 2 votes”. I think, he can try to use that to his advantage to show both Sierra and Dan that they are at the bottom of the alliance. However, this plan will require Dan to show some brains, so who knows if it will work. If he can get Dan and Sierra to flip, with Dan’s extra vote, the game could get very interesting the next couple weeks….
Hey Fishy, Yeah we are good. Making up is so much more fun right! Never saw the Warriers either, sounds familiar though. Maybe more of a boy movie. But it did make me think of The Outsiders which was around that same time too I bet? Mike is def. Johnny. My 6th grader had to do a big report on that and I forgot how many famous people were in that movie! Anyway, stop getting so upset about POS! One of the great things about this game is that it will fix itself. He won’t win, no matter who he’s up against. Shirin will have ample time to make the jury hate him even more, and he hasn’t done anything to warrant a win. Plus, I really think the verbal abuse is sort of part of the game. Yeah its yucky and I think if it was racial everyone would be freaking out more, but still, if that’s his game so be it. He’ll loose because of it. Case closed. Poor Mike. He has such great plans that all fail, and he’s a doofus but he’s one of the nicer people playing. So if you hate Will bc he’s mean, than you must love Mike because he’s nice. Logic 101! Dan is really smarmy. His stupid comments about being adopted were lame, I’m sure his adopted parents really appreciated being put on an equivalent level with domestic violence. Shirin has def. drank the Silicon Valley kool aid though with all her men are mean etc. But she actually did become more lovable if that’s possible. Did you see in the Ponderosa video that she said the only reason she was naked was bc she was boiling her undies. SO GROSS! Between Max’s feet in the pot and Shirin’s undies, I’m shocked anyone has survived past day 10! And I loved the commenter above saying the only big boobs we have now are on the men. Classic! Sierra has smaller boobs than Dan and POS, though that’s not saying much. Poor Fishy, only 2 A cups to watch and one’s on a 50 year old woman. I don’t think Sierra will get a clue, she’s pretty and probably has pretty girl disease where it never occurs to her that she won’t win. Dan may wise up but he’s such a weirdo, its hard to say. There is something odd and sort of serial killer like about Tyler. Thats all I got this week.
Wow! Really great comments… I am honored with your input.
doc – Thanks for “stopping by” every week. Love that… Truth be told, I’ve never even read Of Mice and Men (Don’t tell anyone!). I’ve read a lot of classics, but that’s just one I never got to. Yeah, I know what it’s about (kinda hard not to) so the analogy was just an easy pull…
-You really should watch The Warriors. It was a cult classic from that era, kinda like “Escape From New York” where you’re in an alternate reality. Walter Hill directed some other great movies too (Southern Comfort, 48 hrs., The Long Riders) and he produced a bunch of huge films.
-I agree about moves. This ep was set up where huge moves could have been made, but this crew is just so damn chickenshit to try ANYTHING. At least Mike, in his failed way at the auction, TRIED to do something. Adorable as it was, it was like a cat-burgler dressed in black, trying to sneak into a building…in the daytime.
-You’re spot on about him holding onto the idol. Like I’ve said before, I think players are aware of the escalating payouts, and the difference between 7th and 6th (or possibly higher) could be significant. This is never discussed on the show, but I’ve always wondered about it. KInda like Kass making some of the choices she made, just to finish higher in the game, but knowing she had no chance to win with that gameplan.
-Re: Tyler’s choice to not move on Dan. Same thing I said above, no one’s making any moves. This whole, “We’re 6 strong and then we’ll decide how to splinter,” is not the best strategy. Flip it up and create new alliances. That’s how the game is supposed to be played. He seems afraid to rock the boat too much.
-Blue had a bad combination of players. Mike is no genius, and when you let dumb people lead you, you’re gonna fail. Plus, guys like him seem to let their ego get in the way, so in that moment of possible failure, they try to overcompensate and “fight through” the failure, not wanting their pride to take a hit. Typically, they fail, and even worse off.
-Maybe there should have been 2 necklaces for men and one for women, based on the uneven gender balance (5-3)?
-I read somewhere Jeff’s rationalization for his lack of involvement on the Shirin/POS situation. He’s claiming he was in “host” mode while it was going on, but he’ll definitely be addressing it at the reunion show. Can’t wait for that!
-Maybe Dan thought he wanted to keep the box as a souvenir? Kinda stupid to not bury the clue somewhere. Seems a pretty easy thing to do considering other people have gone through bags in the past. Silly, silly Dan…
oyoung – Thanks for joining the conversation! Re: the Shirin/POS thing, I agree with you 100%. The only thing I’ll add is that I hope THAT’s the way it went down and it’s not some Production cockamamie “story line” that they had the contestants play out. Since they can’t reveal for 3 years any Production secrets (per their contract) it would be nice to know someday if it actually went down as it’s shown. Let’s all meet up somewhere in 3 years to discuss… How about Bergin’s Tavern on Fairfax on May 2nd, 2018? Say…6pm. See you there…
-I LOVE your idea for a “Demi-gods” and goddesses season. That’s kinda what I’ve been craving for years. Give us the superheroes season so the “game” takes precedence over the “drama.” Let’s give this some idea some legs people! But, I don’t Josh and Reed could play, unless it became a “B vs. W” season too. Just unfair to have them both play, lest they become targets on Day 1. You’d either have to “pair up” demigods (by season? race? finish order? tats?) or…just invite Reed because his jury “question” to Missy will go down as one of the best ever. He deserves another shot. Neither are in the running for the “Second Chance” season, which is a surprise, but I’d guess the show asked Reed and he said he couldn’t do it unless Josh is with him. (Because, yes, I know how everyone in the world would respond to anything…). So maybe they’re saving them for a future “Legends” season…?
susie – Hiya Toots! Definitely something’s wrong when the only candy is on a reward! And it’s like they conspired to get rid of every sexy body early: So, Vince, Lindsey, Max, Joaquin Dead, Hali, Joe. I’m not saying that all of these folks are sexy, but they’re all a hell of a lot in better shape than the bucket of rocks we’re left with. You get to fantasize about Rodney, but I’m sure you have to turn the volume down for that. I’m stuck with Sierra (who’s friggin hot in real life!) but right now she’s looking more like Andy Rooney with those eyebrows…!
-I look at Shirin and I can just know who she is. Just a dorky ugly duckling who grew up and made something of herself, but is still that dorky kid inside. Good for her. To have gone through as much shit as she has and still be able to smile, have fun, and remain dedicated to the game (at least to the outcome of it) is worthy of praise. I’m sure she gets a lot more respect in the real world, which is a sad commentary on how this game works. There’s a reason why the military works and that’s because there’s rank and order. In business, you have supervisors and subordinates, however, in Survivor, everything starts out equal and the “ranks” are established quickly. She immediately became a subordinate, but she probably didn’t see it going that way… Thankfully, she’s a big enough fan to realize that was happening…
sheila – Welcome! I appreciate your input.
– I’m not sure Mike is clever enough to have thought it through that much. We could ponder if he said,
“If i give my necklace to Shirin at the beginning, ____ will happen, so I need to do ____
And if I give my idol to Shirin, ____ will happen…
And if I keep everything secret, _____ will happen…”
I really don’t give him that much credit. I think a great player would run through all those scenarios, and then consider the outcome of each. And then consider what might happen for each outcome, and then commit to one. At least, that’s the way I think I would play. But Mike, I think he just thought, “If I pretend to give my idol to Shirin, chances are they won’t vote for her, and maybe one of them will go home.” But, look what happened, 4 people STILL voted for Shirin, and while they may have been possibly throwing their votes away, they accomplished what they wanted. So, Mike’s only saving grace is that he still has his idol. That’s great for one more week, but if he had given Shirin his idol, that may have made Dan play his second vote against (Tyler?) sending him home, and that would have reshuffled the Top Six into:
Mike/Shirin/Dan/Sierra
vs.
Rodney/Carolyn/POS
And then it’s just a walk in the park from there.
Hindsight is 20/20, but I just wonder if Mike put as much thought into it, as we just did in 6 minutes of typing… Meh, we’ll never know…
kinb! – Welcome Back! You know we can’t quit each other… :-*
– I dig what you’re saying about The Outsiders, but I’m now leaning more towards a film where you just hate everyone. The only film I can think of is Glengarry Glen Ross. There’s another movie (or TV show) that I saw within the last few years. It’s slips my mind. After seeing it, I just realized that no one was likable. I can’t friggin remember it and it’s bugging me. If anyone can remember it for me, please do…
-Let’s PRAY that POS doesn’t win. If he did, I’d be done with this show. Yes, Shirin will definitely have time to prepare the jury, but that shouldn’t be hard to do. Remember how a few weeks ago, one of the big comments was how little game he was playing? And now he can go to the finale? That is the one thing that needs to be fixed on this show. Not necessarily by Jeff, but by the players. Again, the farther you go, the more money you make, so just from the standpoint of who “deserves” to get paid, that kind of player should be eliminated. I know it’s a huge part of the game to drag losers along, but that’s why I think it should be: win and get a million, or come in 2nd-18th place and get $10,000 (or similar). It’s just the way it should be… I read that everyone gets $10,000 for being on the reunion show, so that’s $20,000 for losing out on 8 weeks(?) of work.
(Damn, I’m writing a novel here…)
-I know what you’re saying about Mike, but I have 4 criteria for liking someone:
1. Don’t be mean/don’t be a dick
2. Don’t be stupid
3. Be good at the game
4. Be hot
POS is obviously #1 and Mike is #2, and none of the other players are really doing any of the 4 for me. Like I said, Sierra (in her present state) is borderline #4, so I’m leaning towards her.
-Dan is disgusting. Period. I hate everything about him.
-Undies in the food pot! Fantastic. Should we put our toenail clippings and dead skin in the broth now to make soup…?
-Maybe you hit the nail on the head. I don’t “not like” Sierra because of her eyebrows, it’s her boobs… Probably.
-and finally, I know what you’re saying about Tyler. It’s like his earlier attitude toward Shirin when she was naked. Like, he couldn’t even look at her. Really? I’d like to see that guy at a strip club, he’d be looking at the DJ or the pole, or the other customers. Weird…
3 weeks to go! Can’t wait to see us all eat our words and LOVE the final episode…
Carpal tunnelingly,
Fish
At the heart of it all, it’s a GAME. Play to have fun, with a general game plan, knowing that at any moment it can’t be turned around. That’s why you have to be pliable in your game plan. The only super serious decisions to be made are at the top 5? 4? THAT’s when the end is in sight and only then should the possibility of winning the game be considered. People spend WAY too much time thinking about end game when they need to think about other things. That’s why Woo’s decision to take Tony to the end will never sit well with me. You play to win, not play for “honor.”
Hey Fish, sorry I didn’t leave any comments earlier. Friday was a PTO day. Avengers and all that which pretty much left me spent the entire weekend.
Now that I’m back at work, plenty of excuses to goof around.
The final seven… One step closer towards my nightmare final three now that Shirin is gone. I hear you on why you don’t like Mike, but he’s honestly the only hope I have for someone winning that I can stomach unless Tyler gets a LOT of positive editing these last few episodes.
Mike may be the proud owner of a couple of stupid moves, but Dan is so ignorant… so clueless that he’s being played…. I just can’t even. I finally understand the meaning of that phrase. Still think it’s a stupid phrase, but with Dan, I just can’t even.
POS is POS. No need to go on about why he’s a part of the nightmare scenario crew. I’m with you, if he somehow wins… I’m for sure out season 31, potentially out of Survivor for good.
Carolyn… I liked her so much at the White Collar camp. Felt like she was making moves, hunting down hidden idols without clues, I loved it…. Then she got it and pretty much decided to just sit there and do nothing. She’s not given me any reason to hate her, but man, she’s just not exciting.
Tyler… I liked him a little more after last week’s episode, but I’m not a fan of suddenly appearing to be in control in the last few episodes. I won’t cry if he wins, but like Carolyn, it’s not exciting for me. Plus anyone who really thinks they “share” a Hidden Immunity Idol with someone else is a fool, and I loathe people sneaking around in other people’s bags, even idiots like Dan.
Boston Rod… I’d love to hear Boston Rob’s opinion on him. Rob being an amazing player in my book, would surely have a lot of things to say about Rod and his game play thus far. Thinks he’s in charge, but maybe he’d be a disappointment in the eyes of Ultron. Rod may have strings attached and the real puppet master here is Tyler… Maybe…
Sierra… is boring. She’s done NOTHING. No big moves, no big flips, no game changers… Would be a disappointing wrap up to the season if she were to win.
Mike’s move at tribal, I think is the right one. If he played it for Shirin, Dan and his advantage would go home. By keeping it, he lost an ally, but has hopefully caused the shots that will start the fracturing and the start of the civil war within the Axis of Evil. Dan got two votes. If nothing else will make him realize that he’s CLEARLY at the bottom of the “six strong” totem pole, nothing will.
As for Boston Rod announcing that he’s ready to go home in next week’s sneak peek… I can only hope that it really happens.
I agree with thatguy…Mike did an interesting thing by seeming to offer his idol to Shirin. Sussing out those two votes for Dan. But I can’t bring myself to credit Mike with such clever tactics…I think for him it was a happy accident. If Dan doesn’t really get a clue as to where he stands with his precious alliance…he is an even bigger fool than I thought. (and that’s saying something)
I’m torn on my opinion of this season. Without doubt this is one of the worst casts as a whole…and we are now left with the least likable folks as potential winners. (I’d most rather see Mike win of those left though). On the other hand…I have had a bit of entertainment with some of the antics of this group. When Shirin raised her hand thus denying POS his letters…I literally cheered! That was hilarious. And Jenn was pretty entertaining as well….wish she had stuck around longer…droopy drawers and all. But mostly I spend the hour rolling my eyes at the screen when Dan, Rodney or just about anyone else opens their mouth. This is Nothing like Chochran’s season. He was fun to cheer on. This is not a rooting for your favorite kind of a season…more like a cringing and hoping the lesser of the remaining losers can somehow come out the winner sort of season.
I’m not one to say that “If so and so wins I’m not watching Survivor again”…I enjoy the show too much really. But…my gosh….if Dan or Rodney win…I can’t even… 😉
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